Liv @ 3.3.2008, 6:11 pm wrote:That's very worrying, when therapists try to get people to remember "abuse"that didn;t happen. I am sure that can lead to terrible consequences - very unhelpful for the person in therapy, potentially disastrous for a person falsely accused. Potentially getting people to imagine past lives that didn;t really happen is pretty harmless I guess. The thing is hypnosis, by definition puts you in an ininhibited, obedient/suggestible and imaginitive sort of state, so I guess it is hard to know when it unearths real memories and when it encourages you to imagine ones
Intersting you take the view some people are reincarnated, some go to an afterlife and some just cease to exist. Is that a belief or a hunch or do you base it on anything in particular?
I guess your friend going into a trance and saying you were a plantation owner's daughter, you can take or leave.. I take it you didn;t have any particular feelings as to whether it might have been true?
Liv @ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:25 am wrote:I see. I can understand how focussing on past lives too much could be seen as unhelpful to the Buddhist goal of elightenment - being too wrapped up in the current life's preoccupations is seen as unhelpful, so I guess even more so being obsessed by what we possibly got up to in previous ones. But, as an aside, I thought that in Buddhism the ultimate point was more about getting off the journey completely - that being in samsara is something to be escaped from once and for all. That's one thing that I'm not sure works for me about the Buddhist stance. However I know Buddhism tends to ecnourage you to live in the moment - is that what you mean about the journey being the point?
Liv @ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:25 am wrote:Sure. It seems a bit of a departure from the Buddha's teachings to me. Have you ever come across a sect called the Sokka Gakkai - I think you really wouldn;t like them much. I was invited along to a few of their chanting sessions at one point (they basically think you just need to chant the first line of the Lotus Sutra a lot and then you will he happy and successful - and that's Buddhism...).
Liv @ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:25 am wrote:Intriguing. How did you go about tracking departed loved-ones and discovering your own past lives etc? I can;t imagine many people really WANT oblivion, but some people might EXPECT it, because of lacking proof for an afterlife. Maybe some people have a will for it if their experience of life is so painful they just want it all to stop, but surely even then they would prefer to still exist, but in nicer circumstances?
Liv @ Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:27 pm wrote:Tell that to BUddhists -- they say (unlike most Hindus) there is no soul and also that we reincarnate, but I can't completely get my head round how (in my experience different Buddhists give different explanations anyway)
RilianXI @ Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:03 am wrote:Liv @ Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:27 pm wrote:Tell that to BUddhists -- they say (unlike most Hindus) there is no soul and also that we reincarnate, but I can't completely get my head round how (in my experience different Buddhists give different explanations anyway)
My friend Adam is a buddhist. He says that this is my first life.
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