binder and packer recommendations

[Nothing]

for a little Christmas present to myself, i want to get my first binder and packer. but i don't have any idea which i should get! so i was wondering if i could get some recommendations from the WiG forum goers. considering I'm buying it myself, i can save up, so money not being so much of an issue. but even with that, i don't feel the need to get anything to expensive. just want something i can use when going out as male to help me feel more comfortable.

i am a 34 B/C, and wear a size 34/30 (guys) and 12 (girls) if that helps.

[Zainin]

There's a lot of realistic enough, cheap packers you can get if you just want a start-up. I know the people who make Fleshlight have a soft pack (Mr Limpy) and Good Vibrations sells some cheap soft packers. I can't help on STP or PNP as I've never owned one of either.

I can't help with binders, though; I've never needed one. XD;;

[nome]

Underworks is awesome! I have the 997. The nice thing about this one is that it has a double layer on the chest and no binding on the stomach. Easier to breathe and no roll up! I get my D cups down to about an A, although I can't get em flat even on the best day.

[podunktown]

Binder: underworks... ditto on what everone else said. amazingly the one with 3 layers binds 1.5x better than the one with 2 layers. Go your own way.

Packer: There's really only 1 kind of packer than all the different stores distribute. It has 4 sizes and it's pink, kind of annoying. Don't get ripped off cos it should only be 10 bucks. I've heard bad stuff about the $50 silicone one too.

[Kladeos]

I've had the 801 binder by T-Kingdom for almost two years, and I'd recommend. I've seen how hard it can be to get in and out of Underworks binders, although I've never worn one myself. This model has a zipper. No fuss in getting it on or off, and binds well.

[secretsin]

I use the Underworks double front compression, and the GoodVibes soft packer.

[TFP]

I just got my first binder, a tri-top from Underworks, and I gotta say it's awesome. Get's me down to about an a-cup and I can actually breath in it.