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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby PeachLeaf » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:52 pm

Ryles wrote:
static nonsense wrote:
PeachLeaf wrote:The mythological significance here was that Mars was the Roman god of war and masculine strength, whereas Venus was the goddess of love and feminine beauty.

Which, like I mentioned, deals with gender stereotypes.

Gaia is a female- just pointing that out. Wouldn't a more genderless God be a better go, if there are any?

The only god I can think of that approaches genderless is Hermaphroditus, which is more intersex than genderless.

I can look into my Celtic mythology books, to see if there's anyone who approaches what you're looking for, but since it's the Celts, I make no promises. >>; Silly Gaels.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:46 am

Psychopomp wrote:Well, the transgendered colors, I believe, are pink, light blue and white. I like that system, every color has a significance. So what are a few colors that symbolize neutrois? Personally, I think white is a good one. It's crisp, neutral and pure.


Pink - light blue - white in that order? Or can they be altered in their order?
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:01 am

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Anyway here are a few tries using that colour set. The gradient looks a little cheesy to me, so I tried solid block colours. Couldn't used white else you wouldn't see it, so I substitutes 5% black. I take it that pink is woman, blue is man, white is neither, for the colour significance?

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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Lluvia Gris » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:42 am

I would prefer the colour green... it isn't generally perceived as belonging to either gender. And it's not as plain as boring as white. [plus it's also my personal taste cause I love green!]
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby EJA » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:58 pm

Rikkusaki wrote:Image

Anyway here are a few tries using that colour set. The gradient looks a little cheesy to me, so I tried solid block colours. Couldn't used white else you wouldn't see it, so I substitutes 5% black. I take it that pink is woman, blue is man, white is neither, for the colour significance?

Edit: Fixed link.


I dunno - that seems too bi-gender to me. One solid colour would be best, a colour that doesn't represent any gender in any way. Green seems good, like Lluvia said.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:40 pm

EJA wrote:I dunno - that seems too bi-gender to me. One solid colour would be best, a colour that doesn't represent any gender in any way. Green seems good, like Lluvia said.


Green has a strong environmental tie to it, so it's a bit iffy in my head. We need to think what will be people's first reactions when they see null symbol in green? They could think a lot of things that are environment-related, even more so since the neutrois community isn't big, or well known yet. In my head, gender-neutral colours are basically anything not blue or red/pink.

White has been mentioned as being neutral, and perhaps it is, but it doesn't stand out on light surfaces, such as this forum's background. But the same can be said about black on dark surfaces. Perhaps we should opt for a shade of grey?

If we mean to be truly neutral, then the symbol should be used with shades (white-grey-black). Perhaps not in a gradient, but as a solid colour (errr, shade) depending on the context surrounding the symbol.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Psychopomp » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:48 pm

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EJA wrote:I dunno - that seems too bi-gender to me. One solid colour would be best, a colour that doesn't represent any gender in any way. Green seems good, like Lluvia said.


Green has a strong environmental tie to it, so it's a bit iffy in my head. We need to think what will be people's first reactions when they see null symbol in green? They could think a lot of things that are environment-related, even more so since the neutrois community isn't big, or well known yet. In my head, gender-neutral colours are basically anything not blue or red/pink.

White has been mentioned as being neutral, and perhaps it is, but it doesn't stand out on light surfaces, such as this forum's background. But the same can be said about black on dark surfaces. Perhaps we should opt for a shade of grey?

If we mean to be truly neutral, then the symbol should be used with shades (white-grey-black). Perhaps not in a gradient, but as a solid colour (errr, shade) depending on the context surrounding the symbol.
Well, if we use green, we could use a non-environmental color with it, like black. I do like the idea of using white-gray-black though. Nice and neutral. The gray's important though, I think otherwise it could be mistaken with BDSM pride.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:53 pm

Green and black might work.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby EJA » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:13 pm

I think a greyscale would be great. One color but in different shades, because although neutrois does mean one thing, it can be interpreted many different ways, and although many people can identify with neutrois, they might have slightly different definitions of it. So, greyscale without quite reaching white or black - meaning one thing, but many different aspects of it.

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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Psychopomp » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:14 pm

Yeah, take a look at these.

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Honestly, I think the black takes out most environmental significance.

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Edit: I just thought... what about using gold?
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:39 pm

Psy - Doesn't look too golden to me. Agreed that the black does take out the environmental significance. Could work.

Eja - Thinking you're meaning monochromatic, not greyscale where different shades of a colour are involved :) But I get what you mean.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby KayleeSaeihr » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:42 am

Personally I don't think a symbol should have any colours, except maybe primary colours (red, blue, green, yellow).
I don't like the suggestion that I'm somehow less of a person, just because I don't want to do what everyone else does.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:53 am

Green is not a primary colour.

Unless we're talking about light, in which case yellow isn't a primary colour
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Lluvia Gris » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:32 am

I like the green black white combination, specially the second flag in Psychopomp's post. The gray black white combination is quite good too. I don't like the versions with only three stripes though, it evokes the idea of a state flag too much cause a lot of countries have such, unlike the versions with five stripes.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:05 pm

Lluvia Gris wrote:I don't like the versions with only three stripes though, it evokes the idea of a state flag too much cause a lot of countries have such, unlike the versions with five stripes.


You have a good point about the 3-stripes and flags. Five stripes might work better.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby KayleeSaeihr » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:28 pm

Rikkusaki wrote:Green is not a primary colour.

Unless we're talking about light, in which case yellow isn't a primary colour


Indeed, that's why I chose both.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Psychopomp » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:47 pm

Everyone, by all means, save the flag files and try your own color combination. I was neurotic about spacing so they should be perfect. I believe I saved them in a format that'll make it just a matter of the bucket tool to change colors.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Ryles » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:11 pm

I prefer grey, but that's just because I don't like green.
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby EJA » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:20 pm

Oo - yea, I did mean monochromatic.
What would be the significance of green? (Sorry if it was stated earlier; I didn't catch that.)
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Re: Neutrois Symbol - Suggest Your Own!

Postby Kihata » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:49 pm

Psychopomp wrote:Everyone, by all means, save the flag files and try your own color combination. I was neurotic about spacing so they should be perfect. I believe I saved them in a format that'll make it just a matter of the bucket tool to change colors.


Ahh! Sorry Psy! Not trying to bash you or anything >.<
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