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Pregender

Postby Mu_ » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:41 pm

I find this word is even less commonly used than Neutrois. In my opinion it's very similar, but abit different in some ways. I think of it being someone who is undifferentiated in secondary characteristics (maybe primary too, but not as important) and either dressing ambiguous or perhaps fluid. And typically an "androgynous behavior" or a very fluid behavior. It's markedly similar to when you were really young and could pass off as either of the binary genders simply by matter of dress and behavior.

In my opinion this term generally describes someone that could be very fluid in perceived gender, but doesn't have to be (few gender cues, similar to neutrois). For all intent and purposes they'd basically be grouped into non-gendered, but perhaps do "genderplays" of any gender expression - "gender?" simply is not an applicable attribute.

It's not if people think pregendered people are gendered or not, they just be. It's like someone from a world where gender is not a factor, people are just in flux of any expression. They're core identity would be something like "person" (not a blend of male-female/other as in someone who's genderfluid or genderqueer, etc).

This is all just my take on it, I wrote it as I was going along. And I would be very interested in hearing everyone's opinions, corrections, and perhaps coming up with a very general definition.
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Re: Pregender

Postby Psychopomp » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:19 am

When I hear 'pregender' I think a child who is before realizing the 'significance' of gender or a fetus who hasn't developed sexual organs. It definitely sounds like an important term though.
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Re: Pregender

Postby Ryles » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:45 am

That sounds a bit like "genderless" to me. I remember a person who struck me as extremely genderless. She'd basically fluidly switch from more male to more female behavior, depending on the situation, and the only reason her actions were primarily female were because she'd trained herself to act how people expected her to. She wasn't genderfluid because it wasn't like her gender actually changed, just that her behavior changed.

Psychopomp wrote:When I hear 'pregender' I think a child who is before realizing the 'significance' of gender or a fetus who hasn't developed sexual organs. It definitely sounds like an important term though.

That's what it sounds like to me, as well.
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Re: Pregender

Postby Mu_ » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:00 pm

I should mention that I heard this term cropped up in a couple places (all within non-binary texts). So I was also curious if there was an actual solid definition, as the word sounds interesting and potentially important.

But I can also see it referring to the infancy/fetal stages - although that wasn't the context I saw it in.
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Re: Pregender

Postby vampyre_smiles » Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:28 pm

My thought is, maybe it's more like someone who was genderless before puberty and hasn't changed afterward. I only say that because although I've never had a strong connection to either the binary genders, I feel I've transitioned to a different state of genderless/genderqueer than before puberty.
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