Just got this question in my Formspring account

[Sar]

And got another one:
"What about the entire point of feminism or at least, the combating of misogeny in its many forms? How can you say gender is a biological construct, then say social gendering is what makes you male or female?"

*sigh*

[Psychopomp]

Oh yeah, trolling.

[omelu]

And got another one:
"What about the entire point of feminism or at least, the combating of misogeny in its many forms? How can you say gender is a biological construct, then say social gendering is what makes you male or female?"

*sigh*

you didn't. You acknowledged the impact society has on the psychology of an individual of any gender. You are what you are and everyone has the right to make their own determination about their identity. Its hurtful to be misread, misunderstood, and attacked by formspring trolls because no matter how much people say you should accept yourself for who you are and ignore what people think, we are social creatures and must interact with each other all the time. No one wants to be forced into a role they did not choose, and no wants their feelings and opinions viewed as invalid.

[Sar]

Oh I know I didn't. I didn't even bring up feminism. He did.

[More responses, in order:

"I'm a little confused. How does being a transmale disable you from participating in feminist arguements? Male posturing hurts males as much as it does females. Why do you go for the stereotype to "pass" when there is a gamut of male identities?"

A. It's trans male. With a space. It is also argument.

B. Do tell me what stereotype I am going for. I would *love* to know how you see *my* identity. Please, please cissplain it to me; I have no idea what my own gender identity is!

"Well, since you've devolved to childish pedantry, I'll stop by again when you're willing to legitimately explain your arguments using a real system of definitions and qualifiers."

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? MY gender identity is being dismantled and invalidated and disrespected all by some pretentious pseudo-philosophical thinks-he's-so-smart gay male who doesn't respond to *anything* I've actually said, focusing on his own arbitrary definitions of male/female, dragging feminism into this discussion where it had no place being, who displays a terrifying lack of empathy and respect for trans* people.

And what exactly do you mean by "a real system of definitions and qualifiers"? I'm sorry your ability to search terms is limited; perhaps next time I can provide you with handy definitions. I felt I made my point perfectly clear. The least *you* could do is answer my question. *WHAT* stereotype am I assuming? Do let me know. I want to know what you think my gender identity is because as a cisgender person you obviously have a better handle on other people's gender identity than themselves.

"No one's dismantling your gender identity. You probably shouldn't beg the question then use a series of logical fallacies including poor me. If you're going to post trans theory, you need to be able to critically evaluate it as such."

I wasn't academic. You were. You never actually responded to anything I said.
"And people pick up on those markers-it's called ungendering by the way-and that affects how I am treated. In an instant my preferred pronouns are no longer used and the atmosphere has changed because, according to those people, I am not a "real" man."-
This is totally an example of hardcore trans* theory right here, what with all the personal pronouns and subjectivity-heard of that word?.

Oh and this one:
"Because looking like a gender physically and not matching at least some of the social markers for that gender (or, worse, matching most of the social markers for the other gender) is a fairly reliable way of having people make you at the very least miserable for not matching their expectations of how the world is?

Because in society we rely on secondary gender markers to tell what gender someone is rather than pulling down heir pants.

Because every time a transsexual looks in the mirror and sees the "wrong" sex, and even worse every time a transsexual is clocked in public, it feels worse. Physical surgery only goes so far in avoiding this; social gender constructs are much more powerful cues, and a transsexual is almost certainly going to have been raised being taught the cues and constructs for their birth-assigned sex, not their true gender. This requires conscious effort and re-training in order to associate with society."

Oh yeah, gender dysphoria/dissonance? Totally just theory.]

[Kladeos]

Oh yeah, gender dysphoria/dissonance? Totally just theory.]

It isn't "just theory" if so many of us feel it, and this feeling is acknowledged by doctors and psychologists. =/

[EJA]

For someone in the LGBT community, this guy really isn't openminded at all - the opposite, in fact. What's he doing president of the GSA? Someone's gotta kick him out in place of someone who really will support the LGBT community, not just the LGB part.

[Sar]

Oh yeah, gender dysphoria/dissonance? Totally just theory.]

It isn't "just theory" if so many of us feel it, and this feeling is acknowledged by doctors and psychologists. =/

I know that. [He mentioned trans theory which was ridiculous because none of my examples had anything to do with gender theory.]

[omelu]

unfortunately, people are still just people, no matter what group they belong to. My sister had a gay swimming instructor who was blatantly racist and she was astounded, but, there's no rule that says because you've faced discrimination you won't turn around and do it to others. Look at how the waves of immigrants have been treated, when the Irish came to America everyone hated them and then once they settled in they did the same thing back to the Italians. Being hated and misunderstood does not damage your ability to hate and to misunderstand.

[Sar]

Last response from him:

"Every time you post something incredibly stereotypically t.v. based male, I twitch a little. If you think learning to tie a tie and doing pushups makes you male, then you have a long transjourney ahead of you. We have some other transitioning people coming in to BiGLTM this next year and if you bring up trans-ideas without thinking about where they come from, I guarantee someone will call you out on it. I fully support every trans-person's journey so I suggest you don't try to take more out of this than necessary."

[Psychopomp]

Yeah, he's not helping at all. He seems to be out to seriously upset you. That's some bigoted stuff...

[EJA]

I suggest just stop replying to him.

[Sar]

I suggest just stop replying to him.

I have.

[Jicragg]

It isn't what you do that makes you what you are it's how you feel.

I do congratulate you for trying to educate but there is only so many times you can talk to fools.

I do also question why he is the head of the local LGBT. Is there anyway you can get in contact with a member of it and complain? You cannot be the first and surely will not be the last transgendered person who will have to deal with him.
I'm not quite sure how Formspring works but surely they much have a discrimination section, considering reporting him.

[Sar]

It isn't what you do that makes you what you are it's how you feel.

I do congratulate you for trying to educate but there is only so many times you can talk to fools.

I do also question why he is the head of the local LGBT. Is there anyway you can get in contact with a member of it and complain? You cannot be the first and surely will not be the last transgendered person who will have to deal with him.
I'm not quite sure how Formspring works but surely they much have a discrimination section, considering reporting him.

I have told our advisor about all this and he said he'll have to discuss it with some people and then he'll let me know if anything can be done.

[Oh, about the other transgender people, when I confronted our President, he had this to say
"Every time you post something incredibly stereotypically t.v. based male, I twitch a little. If you think learning to tie a tie and doing pushups makes you male, then you have a long transjourney ahead of you. We have some other transitioning people coming in to BiGLTM this next year and if you bring up trans-ideas without thinking about where they come from, I guarantee someone will call you out on it. I fully support every trans-person's journey so I suggest you don't try to take more out of this than necessary."
I was tempted to tell him to let those other trans* people to call me out.